Commission Meeting October 8, 2024

Springfield, Ohio Biweekly City Commission Meeting recap. Includes a Presentation followed by citizen (not always) speakers “allowed” to address them for 3 minutes. Then comments from the Mayor, City Manager and Commission. Finally, I add my 2 cents / 3 minutes.

10/9/202410 min read

All there.

**Focus
Rue's emergency proclamation for the imaginary bomb threats. All theater to keep Trump out. Heck's still working on data and Logan Cobbs is still working on a plan for the homeless (both are still working on this in Sept 2025). The accidents issue is due to our kids not having driver's ed in school anymore. Heck said Springfield has the second highest car insurance rates because "repairs cost more". Nothing to see here.

**Presentations/Staff Report

They want you to vote YES for CTC/JVS levy to generate 39 million for some tech center.

Rezoning plan Melody Park for future development.

**Commissioner Comments to Presentation

Estrop thanked them for their service to the community and education. We need people in the trades, contractors, health, service industry. This is the old vocational school. Estrop took a vote that they endorce the CTC. They all voted yes, to support the initiative.

Tackett has visited. How fortunate we are to have a variety of educational opportunities. My son goes to CTC. And will take a yard sign.

Estrop asked about zoning if there was any opposition. No. Was it approved by the Board? No. Unanimous approval.

**Rue Statement
The prayer/invocation and pledge. Please give us peace in our community, Lord. (This is always directed at the citizens - we're still dangerous.)

His usual warning to citizen speakers about disruptions. Some new stronger sentences.

Dave Hopson Congressman. Remarkable dedication to Springfield.

**Citizen Speakers

Melissa Skinner - I'm excited to see what has happened from 2 weeks ago. She had a slew of issues about kids. No answers on the # for victim's advocate and charges for the 4-wheeler. I pray a plan is coming together. Veterans, too. Renting and making a killing. Giving people licenses knowing they can't drive. Healthcare made safe that are not being reported

How will we know what the Governor's money is going for? The city gov't needs to get it together for the citiznes that you swore to protect.. Then you will see forward together.

Mike Spinelli - 2 weeks ago Gov game $ for law enforcement. Why have we not used that money to hire more police? You wanted this to be a big city, you're getting it. Why are our streets not being repaired? Potholes, rent, tent cities - children, you guys aren't doing anything. We don't see anything. You get all this money and why don't you invest it in the city? To serve us. Like the constitution says.

Melanie Brown - homeless is a housing issue. They're getting kicked out for the profit to the Haitians. Mark Sanders gave Rob an assignment to check into a couple of addresses. 60 people in a 2 bedroom house. Are you doing anything about this? Ppl renting by the bed, by shifts. Krystal - Haitian Community Center spoke - some bridge about assimilation - did you get to go? I know you're busy..but did you go? DeWine - immigrants came for employment. Do we really have all that many jobs? Heck sent a letter to Sherrod Brown saying 15K in January....so it's got to be a lot more now. FEMA. FEMA has separate funds for immigration grants to cities. Why haven't we applied? They didn't even award all the money because they didn't have enough applicants. We can't express our concerns without being called a racist. Their better life should not come at the expense of our citizens.

Rue said stay we will have answers.

Mike Lowe - I asked for my money back from the tax levy, since we didn't employ more law enforcement with the money. We're supposed to have 130 officers.. Jill Allen sent me a letter saying individuals cannot get refunds. We have 119. That's not our requirements. All money from this assessment should be placed in a separate interest bearing fund. This is in the charter. You should demand that the funds be returned to the taxpayer. The city manager and council have been long aware of this. You have 14 days to respond or legal action will be taken.

Glenda Bailey - Whose idea was Haitian Flag Day? What non profits did the city coordinate with to do this? Did Haitians pay for their event in Veterans Park? Does the rent you receive come from any gov't agency or non-profit? Today a video at Red Coach Village - there are other videos all over the Internet torturing cats and dogs. Most Haitian are born at home and they don't certify births. They create identities in the CBP app. They are paid mercenaries. You said 20K, now backtracking. Were you lying then or lying now? FEMA spent all its money on migrants. Foreign invaders first and Americans last.

Rue had police escort people out. Ms. Bailey got kicked out. Somebody called Rue a pussy on his way out.

Glenda didn't leave. Rue said, "If you outburst please leave on your own."

Diana Daniels - Thank you to the reporters who've been here the last month that have dug up a lot of people. Jewish Journal reporter. Two sets of victims. Haitians are victims, too. By the people here in Springfield. I can't wait for her next one that names names. Ohio Press Network. John Lauderbach from Epoch Times. Names of others who had videos. I'm asking ONE MORE TIME. Who wrote the copy for the facts about immigration on the site - challenges we face are racism and intolerance. I want to know that person's name now.

Lisa Hayes - I'm not racist. I don't have hate in my heart. We're all victims. My granddaughter couldn't get medicaid for 6 months because of everyone ahead of her. Can't get into Social Security - I'm 64 and want to talk about retiring, but I can't get in. Racism can go both ways. I was blocked at the grocery store. One Haitian sandwiched my granddaughter. Incidents are happening.

Catalina - I"ve been heavily involved for 6 years. Dropout recovery highschool Cliff Park. Somethign about a community event.

Amanda Richardson - the satirical ranter. Stop being racist if you don't want to be called racist. Called us Nazis.

Bill Monaghan - Can't we answer questions from last week? Migrant drivers driving/walking away. is that to protect their TPS status? Housing code violations - people packed in houses - no word on that. I would love a citizen panel that would have information. These 3 minutes and being called names.

Annette Stanley - homeless people. Announce that we're taking blankets, socks, gloves...in Walmart parking lot Saturday 2pm.

Jessica Shafer - I came here two weeks ago and said I would be a target and I was. I'm glad I got under the neo-nazi skin. We are done being held hostage by the minority here trying to get us to hate each other. Laugh at them, make fun of them they are pathetic.

Wes Babian (see bottom***)- He quotes a philosopher and the bible. The only constant is change. Preaches every time he speaks.

**Rue's Immediate Comments

We have worked on the questions we are given in these meetings.

Thank you to the people who support our city all over the country. The kindness far outweighs the rest.

**Rue read an emergency proclamation

Executive order. Town heightened media coverage. City employees' residences have been under threat. Creating an immediate danger for employees.

Article 2 section 7, the mayor shall take command of the police during emergency. The mayor decides what a state of emergency is. We did this during Covid - Copeland. So we are under a state of emergency proclamation.
All purchasing is suspended to focus on security threats - terrorism, civil unrest, cyber attacks of the employees of the city. So they can buy anything they need to for security.

Lasting - we'll review it the first week of November.

**Heck's Reports and Answers

Andy Wilson is here to provide us with statistics on accidents. We'll put the map on our website.

Any answers????

Melissa - I'll ask Chief Allison to talk to you about the 4 wheeler during the break.

Streets not being repaired. 2017 levy was passed, we've begun our paving program again. 9 year hiatus because we couldn't afford it. This is neighborhood streets. We're nowhere near close, but we couldn't do it for 9 years. If you see a pothole, call xxxxxxx. Service department. I guarantee it will be filld. Report a concern feature to our website is being added.

Money from the state - a mobile clinic and a more perm one for EVERYONE. And for the schools for translation services SPECIFICALLY. No money for law enforcement from state or federal. We're asking, but nothing yet.

$75K raised from Mayors' Alliance. for something?

Actively working with legislators to secure as many funds as possible.

Broad context around houses and landlords. We go out and look at addresses we are given. We investigate all of them. We can work with others - Health Dept, etc. - to investigate.

Rue interrupted - we don't want people unsafe in homes. We definitely check addresses. Nobody is getting an address and ignoring it.

Haitian Community Center - Vilas - helping to work toward assimilation. Happy to set up a meeting to facilitate. They're trying to set up a Interfaith group to assist with this, too. They're trying.

We asked about the program. Under TPS, we are not eligible for FEMA dollars.

Do we have 30K new jobs? No. Our job market has become saturated. But jobs are available.

15 or 20K? He asked the Community Center guy - what do you think the population is now and he said 15K.

A letter about the 119 and the strength. When the levy was approved put a minimum of 124. Not for a lack of trying to hire. Since Jan 2022, we have tired to hire 9 and it hasn't worked. The entire state has this issue. We want to be at 130, but the minimum is 124. Jill did you receive a letter? Yes. She had nothing but a "yes". Rue said it's not a valid complaint because we are actively trying.

Property tax levy going to a specific fund?

Whose idea was Haitian Flag Day? They contacted Copeland. Heck wasn't aware of nonprofits. The event at Veterans Park - he's have to ask Leann Castillo about the rental cost.

Facts on the challenges on the website. That FAQ site was a compilation of meeting presentations that the Health Commissioner provided in a prior meeting.

Broad statements on homelessness. I would Logan Cobbs to give an update. Same statement she says every meeting. There is no warming center. Barron had to do it. Church partners would step up with a proposal.

Do we let TPS people drive away? 2 misdemeanors are allowed before it affects their status. But we enforce our driving laws universally. The officers assess whether a vehicle can be towed. I'll put that on the website.

**Commission Comments

Tackett
Thank you to the police, especially in the last few weeks.
Thank you to the citizens for demonstrating genuine care.
Tackett wants to be on the census assessment for the homeless.

Estrop
The state decision to not have driver's education in public schools is a problem.


**DeWine's Safety Director Andy Wilson

Here for statistics.
We did a ride along here, the calls that were stacked up. The call volume here. Their ability to respond so quickly. We're so happy to assist.
I looked at a map. We've been here since Sept 11th. And wanted it to be data driven. Focused on the problem areas.
Home to Leffell, Limestone - Main and High. But out of the neighborhoods. Specific traffic enforcement. Race-neutral.

Since Sept 11, the Highway Patrol has:
744 stops.
333 non-enforcement action. Out of the 333, 200 warnings were given.
411 resulted in violations.
18 crashes.

We have a lot of kids who haven't been through driver's education. The Gov put Code grants in place to do driver's education in school. Your vocational school here got one of those grants.

He and Mrs Dewine are passionate about this. They have a very personal interest in this. We had a meeting with all the insurance company CEOs.

Drive to succeed grant to get help paying for this.

We're working with the city, the non-profits.

**My Thoughts

*** Wes Babian attends every meeting to talk about how much he loves the commissioners, the city manager, the mayor. How selfless and wonderful they are, especially in such stressful and challenging times. He gushes about the love he has for "our new neighbors. He is the Board President of the Clark County Combined Health District (CCCHD) and has a salary listed as zero but directly (in descending salary order) under the top two making over $360K. The CCCHD has made a literal fortune off the Haitians from other people's tax dollars. Wes Babian was Warren Copeland's pastor at the First Baptist Church for 20 years. He is now on the Board of Rocking Horse and the CCCHD, among others in the health field. He is listed as having no salary, and organizations never publish bonuses and benefits for the public. He lived in a 4 BR 4BA, 4300 square foot house on a quiet dead-end street neighboring only about a dozen houses that he sold for $370K in July 2025. According to the Interwebs, he has a net wroth of 1.375 million. These things explain why he's on the Board of everything and as he sees it, chooses to represent his god at every meeting. Thanking Rue for allowing him to speak for 3 minutes. Sanity to me!

Rue's emergency proclamation was to keep Trump out. Yes, it's in the charter that citizens voted for. But it was not intended to be used in invented emergencies.

Rue said, "This proclamation is temporary. We'll revisit it in November when hopefully things are nice and quiet again here. I think you all think this gives me a lot more power than it does" This completely dismisses the umpteen previous years that citizens have been fed up.

Didn't answer the question. If we paid an extra levy in a special fund for 130 officers, refund us. LOL. Jill said if we're not paying the extra 6, we're paying it in overtime to the 124. 19 million dollar budget each year. Special police levy fund. We have to put extra in.

Heck's answer about why are TPSers walking away from accidents - his answer was about towing.

Logan Cobbs gives the same statement every meeting. She's working on a plan. Actively engaged in discussions. Current census count of our population. Nehemiah. (As of September 2025, she and Nehemiah have done NOTHING.)

Estrop to Deputy Dog Wilson: Thank you for all you've done and please express our thanks to the governor. Insurance rates go up due to accidents, but we did away with driver's education. Is it time to talk to our legislators to put it back in public schools?

THIS ISNT A CITIZEN ISSUE. They're deflecting.

Dewine is the problem. He is on a personal Haiti mission, because He loves him some Haiti men and children for some reason. Has a school and a house there. It’s a mystery why Haiti is still a cesspool with all the money spent there. 🤔🤔

City mgr Brian Heck said at the end of September commission meeting, “Let’s get them more resources”! Within 24 hours sugar daddy DeWine sends 2.5 million (I haven’t seen any more troopers). The money is for THEM!!! To teach them how to drive, not attack women, not kill other people’s and park animals, not to carry machetes in grocery stores (my experience here), all the things. More translators, more teachers, and even more housing! It’s insanity. Thank you for your videos!!!! You’re a very good presenter/teacher!! ❤❤